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Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
John Phinney , Jr. was born on 24 December 1638 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.1,2 He was the son of John Phinney and Christian Patten.
John, age 25, married Mary Rogers, age 19, , daughter of Joseph Rogers and Hannah (?), on 10 August 1664 in Barnstable Co., MA, New England.3,4
John Phinney , Jr. died between 19 April 1718 and March 1718 in Barnstable, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.5
Research Note: It should be noted here that most descendants of John Phinney/Finney, spell their name as "Phinney."
John, age 25, married Mary Rogers, age 19, , daughter of Joseph Rogers and Hannah (?), on 10 August 1664 in Barnstable Co., MA, New England.3,4
John Phinney , Jr. died between 19 April 1718 and March 1718 in Barnstable, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.5
Research Note: It should be noted here that most descendants of John Phinney/Finney, spell their name as "Phinney."
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Children of John Phinney , Jr. and Mary Rogers- John Phinney+ b. 5 May 1665, d. 27 Nov 17466
Melatiah Phinney b. Oct 1666, d. Nov 16677
Joseph Phinney b. 28 Jan 1666/678
Thomas Phinney b. Jan 16719
Ebenezer Phinney b. 18 Feb 167310
Samuel Phinney b. 4 Nov 167611
Mary Phinney b. 3 Sep 167812
Mercy Phinney b. 10 Jul 167913
Patience Phinney b. 27 Aug 168114
Benjamin Phinney b. 18 Jun 168215
Jonathan Phinney b. 30 Jul 168416
Hannah Phinney b. 28 Mar 1687, d. 10 Feb 168917
Citations
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., b. Dec. 24, 1638, in Plymouth, Mass.".
- [S87] Mass. Society of Mayflower Descendants, MD, 11:130 [citing Barnstable VR 1:377]; "John ye Eldest Son of John Phinny born at Plimoth 24 of Decem 1638".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] m. Aug. 10, 1664, Mary Rogers [...] a dau. of Joseph and Hannah (---) Rogers and a granddau. of Thomas Rogers of the Mayflower."".
- [S87] Mass. Society of Mayflower Descendants, MD, 11:130 [citing Barnstable VR]; "John Phinny Jur and Mary Rogers Married 10 of August 1664".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] d. in 1718.".
- [S87] Mass. Society of Mayflower Descendants, MD, 11:130 [citing Barnstable VR]; "[John Phinny Jur] his Son John Born ye 5 of May 1665".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Malatiah, b. in Oct., 1666, d. in Nov., 1667."".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Joseph, b. Jan. 26, 1666/67.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Thomas, b. in Jan., 1671.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Ebenezer, b. Feb. 18, 1673.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Samuel, b. Nov. 4, 1676.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Mary, b. Sept. 3, 1678; m. John Eastland.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Mercy, b. July 10, 1679; m. Jan 26, 1715, Eleazor Crocker, a son of William Crocker.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Patience, b. Aug. 27, 1681.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Benjamin, b. June 18, 1682.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Jonathan, b. July 30, 1684.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Hannah, b. March 28, 1687; d. Feb. 10, 1689.".
Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
Mary Rogers was born on 22 September 1644 in prob. Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. She was the daughter of Joseph Rogers and Hannah (?).
Mary, age 19, married John Phinney , Jr., age 25, , son of John Phinney and Christian Patten, on 10 August 1664 in Barnstable Co., MA, New England.1,2 As of 10 August 1664, her married name was Mary Phinney.
Mary Rogers died after 19 April 1718 in Barnstable, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
Mary, age 19, married John Phinney , Jr., age 25, , son of John Phinney and Christian Patten, on 10 August 1664 in Barnstable Co., MA, New England.1,2
As of 10 August 1664, her married name was Mary Phinney. Mary Rogers died after 19 April 1718 in Barnstable, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Children of Mary Rogers and John Phinney , Jr.- John Phinney+ b. 5 May 1665, d. 27 Nov 1746
Melatiah Phinney b. Oct 1666, d. Nov 16673
Joseph Phinney b. 28 Jan 1666/674
Thomas Phinney b. Jan 16715
Ebenezer Phinney b. 18 Feb 16736
Samuel Phinney b. 4 Nov 16767
Mary Phinney b. 3 Sep 16788
Mercy Phinney b. 10 Jul 16799
Patience Phinney b. 27 Aug 168110
Benjamin Phinney b. 18 Jun 168211
Jonathan Phinney b. 30 Jul 168412
Hannah Phinney b. 28 Mar 1687, d. 10 Feb 168913
Citations
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] m. Aug. 10, 1664, Mary Rogers [...] a dau. of Joseph and Hannah (---) Rogers and a granddau. of Thomas Rogers of the Mayflower."".
- [S87] Mass. Society of Mayflower Descendants, MD, 11:130 [citing Barnstable VR]; "John Phinny Jur and Mary Rogers Married 10 of August 1664".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Malatiah, b. in Oct., 1666, d. in Nov., 1667."".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Joseph, b. Jan. 26, 1666/67.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Thomas, b. in Jan., 1671.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Ebenezer, b. Feb. 18, 1673.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Samuel, b. Nov. 4, 1676.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Mary, b. Sept. 3, 1678; m. John Eastland.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Mercy, b. July 10, 1679; m. Jan 26, 1715, Eleazor Crocker, a son of William Crocker.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Patience, b. Aug. 27, 1681.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Benjamin, b. June 18, 1682.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Jonathan, b. July 30, 1684.".
- [S115] Howard Finney, Phinney Families, Pg. 2; "John Phinney, Jr., [...] Children, all recorded in Barnstable, Mass.: [...] Hannah, b. March 28, 1687; d. Feb. 10, 1689.".
John Phinney (M)
b. circa 1610, #3023
b. circa 1610, #3023
Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
John Phinney was born circa 1610 in England.
John married Christian Patten circa 1636 in England.
As of 12 September 1649, John was also known as John Finny (Death record of Wife).1
John married Christian Patten circa 1636 in England.
As of 12 September 1649, John was also known as John Finny (Death record of Wife).1
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Child of John Phinney and Christian Patten- John Phinney , Jr.+ b. 24 Dec 1638, d. bt 19 Apr 1718 - Mar 1718
Citations
- [S85] Lee D. van Antwerp, Plymouth VR, Pg 657; "Christian Finny the wife of John Finny died 9 Sept. [1649]".
Christian Patten (F)
d. 12 September 1649, #3024
d. 12 September 1649, #3024
Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
Christian married John Phinney circa 1636 in England. As of circa 1636, her married name was Christian Phinney.
Christian Phinney died on 12 September 1649 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.1
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Child of Christian Patten and John Phinney- John Phinney , Jr.+ b. 24 Dec 1638, d. bt 19 Apr 1718 - Mar 1718
Citations
- [S85] Lee D. van Antwerp, Plymouth VR, Pg 657; "Christian Finny the wife of John Finny died 9 Sept. [1649]".
Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
Joseph Rogers was baptized on 23 January 1602/3 in Watford, Northampton, England.2 He was the son of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford.1 Joseph was a passenger on the ship Mayflower of 1620. He immigrated on 21 November 1620 to Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England, from Leiden, Holland, with his father Thomas. He recieved a Land Grant in 1623 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England, of two acres in the "division of land". One acre for himself and another on behalf of his father. He possibly lived in the house of Gov. William Bradford, Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England, between 1623 and 1627, with whom he recieved a share of the division of cattle in 1627.
Joseph married Hannah (?) circa 1633.
Joseph Rogers was on a list of freemen dated 1633 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was taxed 9 shillings on 25 March 1633 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was a jury member on 2 March 1635/36 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England, of a coroner's inquest, investigating the death of John Deacon. He was granted permission to operate a ferry over at the Jones River, near his house, Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England, on 2 March 1635/36. He was a jury member on 1 June 1636 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
In 1638, Joseph was employed or working as a ordered to repair the highways, along with John Washburn. At Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers received a Land Grant of 30 acres on 5 November 1638 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was appointed as a Constable on 3 March 1639/40 for Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers received a Land Grant as one of the purchasers or "old comers" on 3 March 1639/40 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He and John Rogers, his brother, received a Land Grant of 50 acres each, of upland on 6 April 1640 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Joseph appeared on a list of those able to bear arms in August 1643 and was of Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
In 1644, Joseph and John Rogers were employed or working as a appointed to lay out roads at Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was a member of a group of inhabitants who were to "lay out land" on 20 October 1645 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was on a list of freemen dated 1646 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He removed to Eastham, Barnstable Co., then called "Nauset", circa 1647 from Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was appointed "Lieutenant to exercise men in arms" on 1 June 1647 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
As of 1 June 1647, Joseph was also known as Lt. Joseph Rogers.
As of 1651, Joseph was also known as Leiftenant Josepth Rogers (as recorded in the Sandwich Register of Births for 8 of his children). He appears on what is thought to be a freemen list dated circa 1658 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He served on a council of war with 16 other men and was named as Lt. Joseph Rogers between June 1658 and October 1658 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was "freed" from his Lieutenancy, by order of the General Court on 1 October 1661 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers purchased 40 acres of upland from Mannasses Kemton on 24 July 1662 at Barly Neck, Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was reinstated as Lieutenant on 8 June 1664 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was appointed as a Selectman in 1670 representing Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers sold "a piece of land" to an unknown person on 31 January 1672 at Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was buried between 2 January 1677 and 15 January 1677 at Old Cove Burial Ground, Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He left a will dated 2 January 1677/78 at Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.3 Click here for a transcription of Joseph's Will.
Joseph married Hannah (?) circa 1633.
Joseph Rogers was on a list of freemen dated 1633 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was taxed 9 shillings on 25 March 1633 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was a jury member on 2 March 1635/36 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England, of a coroner's inquest, investigating the death of John Deacon. He was granted permission to operate a ferry over at the Jones River, near his house, Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England, on 2 March 1635/36. He was a jury member on 1 June 1636 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
In 1638, Joseph was employed or working as a ordered to repair the highways, along with John Washburn. At Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers received a Land Grant of 30 acres on 5 November 1638 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was appointed as a Constable on 3 March 1639/40 for Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers received a Land Grant as one of the purchasers or "old comers" on 3 March 1639/40 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He and John Rogers, his brother, received a Land Grant of 50 acres each, of upland on 6 April 1640 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Joseph appeared on a list of those able to bear arms in August 1643 and was of Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
In 1644, Joseph and John Rogers were employed or working as a appointed to lay out roads at Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was a member of a group of inhabitants who were to "lay out land" on 20 October 1645 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was on a list of freemen dated 1646 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He removed to Eastham, Barnstable Co., then called "Nauset", circa 1647 from Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England. He was appointed "Lieutenant to exercise men in arms" on 1 June 1647 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
As of 1 June 1647, Joseph was also known as Lt. Joseph Rogers.
As of 1651, Joseph was also known as Leiftenant Josepth Rogers (as recorded in the Sandwich Register of Births for 8 of his children). He appears on what is thought to be a freemen list dated circa 1658 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He served on a council of war with 16 other men and was named as Lt. Joseph Rogers between June 1658 and October 1658 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was "freed" from his Lieutenancy, by order of the General Court on 1 October 1661 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers purchased 40 acres of upland from Mannasses Kemton on 24 July 1662 at Barly Neck, Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was reinstated as Lieutenant on 8 June 1664 in Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was appointed as a Selectman in 1670 representing Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.
Joseph Rogers sold "a piece of land" to an unknown person on 31 January 1672 at Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He was buried between 2 January 1677 and 15 January 1677 at Old Cove Burial Ground, Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England. He left a will dated 2 January 1677/78 at Eastham, Barnstable Co., MA, New England.3
Click here for a transcription of Joseph's Will. Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Child of Joseph Rogers and Hannah (?)- Mary Rogers+ b. 22 Sep 1644, d. a 19 Apr 1718
Citations
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html.
- [S89] PCPR , III9(b):103-104.
Hannah (?) (F)
#3026
#3026
Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
Hannah married Joseph Rogers, son of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford, circa 1633. As of circa 1633, her married name was Hannah Rogers.
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Child of Hannah (?) and Joseph Rogers- Mary Rogers+ b. 22 Sep 1644, d. a 19 Apr 1718
Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
Thomas Rogers was born between 1564 and 1585 in Watford, Northamptonshire, England, son of William Rogers and Eleanor (?).3 He was the son of William Rogers and Eleanor (?).1,2 He was named an heir in the will of William Rogers dated 13 August 1585, registered at the Archdeaconry Court of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England, The following transcript of William's will was published by Clifford Stott:
William Rogers of Watford (1585)
"In Dei Nomine Amen the XIIIth day of August Anno dom 1585 I willm Rogers of Watford in the county of Northton husbandman sicke in body but of whole and pfecte memory do make and ordeyne this my last will and testament in maner and form following first I bequeathe my soule into the hands of Almighty god my maker and to Jesus Christ my redeemer and to the holy ghost my sanctyfyer and my body to be buryed in the churchyard of Watford aforesaid Item I give and bequeath unto Thomas Rogers my eldest sonne one messuage with a little peece of ground joining to the same on the backside commonly called the cote and one quarter of land being in the neyther end field of Watford with all the appurtenances there unto belonging to enter upon the same messuage and quarter of land with appurtenances at twenty one years of his age and not before in the meantime my wife to have the occupation of it Item I give unto the same Thomas Rogers one gray colte and my beest kine to chuse the same at holy roodes of day commonly called thenvention of the holly crosse* nex ensuing the date hereof Item I give and bequeath unto the same Elizabeth Rogers my daughter one cowe and one lambe to be delivered unto hir at thenvention of the holy crosse next come twelve moneth which shalbe in the yeare of our lord god 1587 Item I give and bequeath unto Willm Rogers my sonne ten pounds of lawful Englishe money to be payed unto him at eighteen years of his age Item Igive unto the foresaid Willm Rogers my sonne the lease of one messuage or tenement wheron I now dwell and one halfe yard land unto the same belonging with all those pastures medowes feeding commons with all the appurtenances unto the same belonging lying in th towne or of field or fields of Watford aforesaid to enter upon the foresaid messuage half yard land with the appurtenances etc after the decease of Ellenor Rogers my wife at the endy of hir naturrall lyfe in the meantime the foresaid Ellenor to have and enioy the messuage halfe yard land with the appurtenances in as ample and large maner as is before specyfyed Item I give unto the sayd Willm Rogers my sonne three hyves commonly called his owne Provided always that yf it happen any of my foresaid children to decease before terme or tyme specyfyed or abouve specyfyed for payment or delivery of all and every of the foresaid porsions or legacyes that then they survivors or longer liver or livers to have the legacyes of the deceased equally devided ajongest and yf it happen all save one to decease then he or she to have and enioy all the whole legacyes of the deceased And yf it happa my children aforeayd to decease before the termes aforesaid then the legacyes to remayne with myne executrix Item I give and bequeath to Elizabeth Cole my sister xii [1] and to either of hir children iiii [1] a peece Item I give unto Willm Garle the sonne of Alexander Garle iiii [1] All the rest of my goods chattels moveable and unmoveable (illegible) unbequeathed my debts discharged I give unto Ellinor Rogers my wfye who I make my whole and sole executrix to fulfill this my last will and testament And I desire Robt Butler and Edward Rogers my brother to my overseers made in the psence of Robt Butler Robt Maddocke of Watford with others (proved 9 May 1586) Inventory x1ij [li] xix[s] ij
* The invention of the Holy Cross, celebrated 3 May, commemorates Empress Helena's discovery of the True Cross in Palestine in 376 A.D.4
Thomas married Alice Cosford, age 24, daughter of George Cosford and Margart (?), on 24 October 1597 at Watford, Northamptonshire, England.5,6
Additional research in Leiden records by Jeremy Bangs showed that in 1616 or 1617, Thomas Rogers purchased a house from a baker located on the Barbarasteeg, Leiden, Holland, from Jan Bloemsaet.7 He and Alice lived at Barbarasteeg, Leidon, Holland, between 1617 and 1620, this based on his citizenship (1618) and the sale of his house in Leiden (1620).8
On 25 June 1618, Thomas was employed or working as a a Camlet Merchant at Leidon, Holland.
Thomas Rogers became a citizen of at Leidon, Holland, on 25 June 1618. Acting as a character witness (sponsor) were Willliam Jepson , formerly of Worksop, Notts., England and Roger Wilson , formerly of Sandwich, Kent Co., England.9,10
On 22 February 1619, Thomas Rogers sued Jan Blomsaet and his bondsman Gerrit Gerritsz, to release a lien on the house Thomas had bought from him. In Leiden, Holland.7
Research Note: Banks, in his "English Ancestry", on pg. 78, notes that taxpayers named Thomas Rogers, Christopher Martin, and John Hooke appear in the London parish of St. Bartholomew the Great early in 1620, but there is no proof that these were the "Mayflower" Passengers.
Thomas was a passenger on the ship Mayflower of 1620 and a signer of the "Mayflower Compact." He immigrated on 11 November 1620 to Plymouth, MA., New England from Leiden, Holland, with his eldest son, Joseph, leaving behind his wife and younger children.
Research Note: Robert Wakefield's examination of the 1622 Leiden poll tax lists reveal that when Thomas1 Rogers left for America his wife Alice, two daughters Elizabeth and Margaret, and son John remained in Leiden. * In the household of Antony Clements, apparently one of the English Separatists who did not emigrate to Plymouth, are found the following persons:
Jan Thomasz orphan from England without means
Elsgen (Alice)** Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers an English woman in the back part of the house or in the kitchen
Lysbeth (Elizabeth)
Grietgen (Margaret)
In the Dutch patronymic system Jan Thomasz is equivalent to John, son of Thomas. His placement above Thomas Rogers' widow and his description as "orphan from England" suggest that he is John2 Rogers, later of Plymouth. It has been speculated that the daughter Elizabeth came to Plymouth and married Samuel1 Eddy, since the latter was granted land at Plymouth on 3 June 1662 reserved for "the firstborn children" of the colony or their parents. As Samuel did not in his own right qualify on either count, it is possible that his wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Thomas1 Rogers.***
In summary, the primary evidence gathered from Dutch and New England sources establishes that Thomas Rogers had a wife named Alice, who survived him, and a least four children: Joseph, John, Elizabeth and Margaret, probably born in that order. Joseph was likely the eldest because he came with his father to Plymouth in 1620, while the birth orders of the others is suggest by the tax list. Thomas left England by 1616 or 1617, when he bought his house at Leiden.
[Source: The Genealogist 10:138-149 (1989)]
* Robert S. Wakefield, "Mayflower Passengers Turner and Rogers: Probable Identification of Additional Children", The American Genealogist 52:110-13 (1976).
** Although Wakefield read "Elsgen" as Elizabeth, Bangs, supra note 12, p. 207, read its English equivalent as Alice Anthony Clements Married Clara Rogiers, widow of Jan Jansz. The relationship if any between Thomas [1] and Clara has not been determined.
*** For speculation on this point see Eugene A. Stratton, Plymouth Colony: Its History & People (Salt Lake City, Utah, 1986), pp. 287-88.
Thomas Rogers died in 1620/21 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England,, "in the first sickness."11
William Rogers of Watford (1585)
"In Dei Nomine Amen the XIIIth day of August Anno dom 1585 I willm Rogers of Watford in the county of Northton husbandman sicke in body but of whole and pfecte memory do make and ordeyne this my last will and testament in maner and form following first I bequeathe my soule into the hands of Almighty god my maker and to Jesus Christ my redeemer and to the holy ghost my sanctyfyer and my body to be buryed in the churchyard of Watford aforesaid Item I give and bequeath unto Thomas Rogers my eldest sonne one messuage with a little peece of ground joining to the same on the backside commonly called the cote and one quarter of land being in the neyther end field of Watford with all the appurtenances there unto belonging to enter upon the same messuage and quarter of land with appurtenances at twenty one years of his age and not before in the meantime my wife to have the occupation of it Item I give unto the same Thomas Rogers one gray colte and my beest kine to chuse the same at holy roodes of day commonly called thenvention of the holly crosse* nex ensuing the date hereof Item I give and bequeath unto the same Elizabeth Rogers my daughter one cowe and one lambe to be delivered unto hir at thenvention of the holy crosse next come twelve moneth which shalbe in the yeare of our lord god 1587 Item I give and bequeath unto Willm Rogers my sonne ten pounds of lawful Englishe money to be payed unto him at eighteen years of his age Item Igive unto the foresaid Willm Rogers my sonne the lease of one messuage or tenement wheron I now dwell and one halfe yard land unto the same belonging with all those pastures medowes feeding commons with all the appurtenances unto the same belonging lying in th towne or of field or fields of Watford aforesaid to enter upon the foresaid messuage half yard land with the appurtenances etc after the decease of Ellenor Rogers my wife at the endy of hir naturrall lyfe in the meantime the foresaid Ellenor to have and enioy the messuage halfe yard land with the appurtenances in as ample and large maner as is before specyfyed Item I give unto the sayd Willm Rogers my sonne three hyves commonly called his owne Provided always that yf it happen any of my foresaid children to decease before terme or tyme specyfyed or abouve specyfyed for payment or delivery of all and every of the foresaid porsions or legacyes that then they survivors or longer liver or livers to have the legacyes of the deceased equally devided ajongest and yf it happen all save one to decease then he or she to have and enioy all the whole legacyes of the deceased And yf it happa my children aforeayd to decease before the termes aforesaid then the legacyes to remayne with myne executrix Item I give and bequeath to Elizabeth Cole my sister xii [1] and to either of hir children iiii [1] a peece Item I give unto Willm Garle the sonne of Alexander Garle iiii [1] All the rest of my goods chattels moveable and unmoveable (illegible) unbequeathed my debts discharged I give unto Ellinor Rogers my wfye who I make my whole and sole executrix to fulfill this my last will and testament And I desire Robt Butler and Edward Rogers my brother to my overseers made in the psence of Robt Butler Robt Maddocke of Watford with others (proved 9 May 1586) Inventory x1ij [li] xix[s] ij
* The invention of the Holy Cross, celebrated 3 May, commemorates Empress Helena's discovery of the True Cross in Palestine in 376 A.D.4
Thomas married Alice Cosford, age 24, daughter of George Cosford and Margart (?), on 24 October 1597 at Watford, Northamptonshire, England.5,6
Additional research in Leiden records by Jeremy Bangs showed that in 1616 or 1617, Thomas Rogers purchased a house from a baker located on the Barbarasteeg, Leiden, Holland, from Jan Bloemsaet.7 He and Alice lived at Barbarasteeg, Leidon, Holland, between 1617 and 1620, this based on his citizenship (1618) and the sale of his house in Leiden (1620).8
On 25 June 1618, Thomas was employed or working as a a Camlet Merchant at Leidon, Holland.
Thomas Rogers became a citizen of at Leidon, Holland, on 25 June 1618. Acting as a character witness (sponsor) were Willliam Jepson , formerly of Worksop, Notts., England and Roger Wilson , formerly of Sandwich, Kent Co., England.9,10
On 22 February 1619, Thomas Rogers sued Jan Blomsaet and his bondsman Gerrit Gerritsz, to release a lien on the house Thomas had bought from him. In Leiden, Holland.7
Research Note: Banks, in his "English Ancestry", on pg. 78, notes that taxpayers named Thomas Rogers, Christopher Martin, and John Hooke appear in the London parish of St. Bartholomew the Great early in 1620, but there is no proof that these were the "Mayflower" Passengers.
Thomas was a passenger on the ship Mayflower of 1620 and a signer of the "Mayflower Compact." He immigrated on 11 November 1620 to Plymouth, MA., New England from Leiden, Holland, with his eldest son, Joseph, leaving behind his wife and younger children.
Research Note: Robert Wakefield's examination of the 1622 Leiden poll tax lists reveal that when Thomas1 Rogers left for America his wife Alice, two daughters Elizabeth and Margaret, and son John remained in Leiden. * In the household of Antony Clements, apparently one of the English Separatists who did not emigrate to Plymouth, are found the following persons:
Jan Thomasz orphan from England without means
Elsgen (Alice)** Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers an English woman in the back part of the house or in the kitchen
Lysbeth (Elizabeth)
Grietgen (Margaret)
In the Dutch patronymic system Jan Thomasz is equivalent to John, son of Thomas. His placement above Thomas Rogers' widow and his description as "orphan from England" suggest that he is John2 Rogers, later of Plymouth. It has been speculated that the daughter Elizabeth came to Plymouth and married Samuel1 Eddy, since the latter was granted land at Plymouth on 3 June 1662 reserved for "the firstborn children" of the colony or their parents. As Samuel did not in his own right qualify on either count, it is possible that his wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Thomas1 Rogers.***
In summary, the primary evidence gathered from Dutch and New England sources establishes that Thomas Rogers had a wife named Alice, who survived him, and a least four children: Joseph, John, Elizabeth and Margaret, probably born in that order. Joseph was likely the eldest because he came with his father to Plymouth in 1620, while the birth orders of the others is suggest by the tax list. Thomas left England by 1616 or 1617, when he bought his house at Leiden.
[Source: The Genealogist 10:138-149 (1989)]
* Robert S. Wakefield, "Mayflower Passengers Turner and Rogers: Probable Identification of Additional Children", The American Genealogist 52:110-13 (1976).
** Although Wakefield read "Elsgen" as Elizabeth, Bangs, supra note 12, p. 207, read its English equivalent as Alice Anthony Clements Married Clara Rogiers, widow of Jan Jansz. The relationship if any between Thomas [1] and Clara has not been determined.
*** For speculation on this point see Eugene A. Stratton, Plymouth Colony: Its History & People (Salt Lake City, Utah, 1986), pp. 287-88.
Thomas Rogers died in 1620/21 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England,, "in the first sickness."11
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Children of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford- Richard Rogers b. 12 Mar 1599, d. c 4 Apr 1600
Thomas Rogers b. 24 Mar 1598/99, d. c 27 May 15991
Joseph Rogers+ b. 23 Jan 1602/31
John Rogers b. 6 Apr 1606, d. bt 26 Aug 1691 - 20 Sep 16921
Elizabeth Rogers b. 26 Dec 1608, d. a 16221
Margaret Rogers b. 30 May 1613, d. a 16221
Citations
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "[Thomas Rogers] ...son of Willliam and Eleanor (---) Rogers".
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "Thomas Rogers b. Watford, co. Northamptonshire, England ca. 1571".
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers", 10: 138-149 (1989) [Citing Archdeaconry of Northampton, Registered Wills V:214. 22. R.L. Greenall, ed., Parish Register of Long Buckby (Leicester, 1971), pp. 18, 28.].
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "He [Thomas Rogers] m. Watford, Northamptonshire 24 Oct. 1597 ALICE COSFORD, bp. Watford 10 May 1573; dau. of George and Margart (---) Cosford. Both she and Thomas were named in her father's will.".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html, Caleb Johnson states: "Thomas' marriage to Alice Cosford and his children's baptisms are all found in the parish registers of Watford, Northampton, England.".
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers", citing NEHGR 142:207 (1989): "Additional research in Leiden records by Jeremy Bangs showed that the house had been purchased in 1616 or 1617 from a baker, Jan Bloemsaet, and that Rogers had sued Blomsaet and his bondsman Gerrit Gerritsz, on 22 February 1619 to release a lien on the house.".
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, :153 [citing NEHGR 143:207]; "On 1 April 1620 Thomas sold his Leiden house on the Barbarasteeg for 300 guilders, in preparation for the journey to New England.".
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, :153; "Our earliest encounter with Pilgrim Thomas Rogers was on 25 June 1618 when he became a citizen of Leiden, Holland, vouched for by William Jepson, formerly of Worksop, Notts., and by Roger Wilson, formerly of Sandwich, Kent Co., England.".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html, "Thomas Rogers became a citizen of Leyden on 25 June 1618 with sponsors William Jepson and Roger Wilson, and is called a Camlet-merchant. And just two years later, on 1 April 1620, he sold his house in Leyden before coming to America on the Mayflower.".
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "[Thomas Rogers] d. Plymouth [MA] in the winter of 1620/21 'in the first sickness' ".
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Alice Cosford was baptized on 10 May 1573 in Watford, Northamptonshire, England, Alice Cosford, who married Thomas Rogers at Watford 24 October 1597, was almost certainly a daughter of George Cosford baptized there 10 May 1573. The name is by this time almost illegible; Watts speculated that it was "Anne" but Mrs. Powell states that it "could equally be Anne or Alice" and, in any event , the will of George Cosford names Alice and Thomas Rogers his daughter and son-in-law but does not mention any daughter Anne. The following entries were extracted from the Watts transcript:
Baptisms
1570 23 Aug Annis Cosforde
1571 9 Jun Johannes Cosforde
1573 10 May Anne (?) Cosforde (Anne or Alice, M.A. Powell)
1574 4 Feb Wilhelmus Cosforde
1576 3 Jun Clemence, daughter of Georgi Cosforde (month added and name confirmed by M.A. Powell)
1581 10 Jun Giffordus, son of Georgii Cosforde.2,3
She was the daughter of George Cosford and Margart (?).1
Alice, age 24, married Thomas Rogers, son of William Rogers and Eleanor (?), on 24 October 1597 at Watford, Northamptonshire, England.4,5 As of 24 October 1597, her married name was Alice Rogers. She and Thomas lived at Barbarasteeg, Leidon, Holland, between 1617 and 1620, this based on his citizenship (1618) and the sale of his house in Leiden (1620).6
As of 1622, Alice was also known as Elsgen Rogiers as taken from a Leiden Poll Tax list. "Elsgen" is Dutch for "Alice." She lived in the residence of Anthony Clements, Over 't Hoff Quarter, St. Peters Churchyard west-side, Leiden, Holland, in 1622 with children John, Margaret and Elizabeth (See citation for details).7,8
Baptisms
1570 23 Aug Annis Cosforde
1571 9 Jun Johannes Cosforde
1573 10 May Anne (?) Cosforde (Anne or Alice, M.A. Powell)
1574 4 Feb Wilhelmus Cosforde
1576 3 Jun Clemence, daughter of Georgi Cosforde (month added and name confirmed by M.A. Powell)
1581 10 Jun Giffordus, son of Georgii Cosforde.2,3
She was the daughter of George Cosford and Margart (?).1
Alice, age 24, married Thomas Rogers, son of William Rogers and Eleanor (?), on 24 October 1597 at Watford, Northamptonshire, England.4,5 As of 24 October 1597, her married name was Alice Rogers. She and Thomas lived at Barbarasteeg, Leidon, Holland, between 1617 and 1620, this based on his citizenship (1618) and the sale of his house in Leiden (1620).6
As of 1622, Alice was also known as Elsgen Rogiers as taken from a Leiden Poll Tax list. "Elsgen" is Dutch for "Alice." She lived in the residence of Anthony Clements, Over 't Hoff Quarter, St. Peters Churchyard west-side, Leiden, Holland, in 1622 with children John, Margaret and Elizabeth (See citation for details).7,8
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Children of Alice Cosford and Thomas Rogers- Richard Rogers b. 12 Mar 1599, d. c 4 Apr 1600
Thomas Rogers b. 24 Mar 1598/99, d. c 27 May 1599
Joseph Rogers+ b. 23 Jan 1602/3
John Rogers b. 6 Apr 1606, d. bt 26 Aug 1691 - 20 Sep 1692
Elizabeth Rogers b. 26 Dec 1608, d. a 1622
Margaret Rogers b. 30 May 1613, d. a 1622
Citations
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1 - "... Alice Cosford... dau. of George and Margart (-----) Cosford. Both She and Thomas were named in her father's will".
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1 - "... Alice Cosford, bp. Watford 10 May 1573".
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "He [Thomas Rogers] m. Watford, Northamptonshire 24 Oct. 1597 ALICE COSFORD, bp. Watford 10 May 1573; dau. of George and Margart (---) Cosford. Both she and Thomas were named in her father's will.".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html, Caleb Johnson states: "Thomas' marriage to Alice Cosford and his children's baptisms are all found in the parish registers of Watford, Northampton, England.".
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, :153 [citing NEHGR 143:207]; "On 1 April 1620 Thomas sold his Leiden house on the Barbarasteeg for 300 guilders, in preparation for the journey to New England.".
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, : 153; "Recent discoveries [1978] show that Thomas had a family living in Leiden, Holland, when the 1622 Poll Tax was taken. In the Over 't Hoff Quarter, in a house with other Pilgrim families in St. Peter's Churchyard west-side, were Jan Thomasz, orphan from England without means; Elsgen Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers, an Englishwoman; and Lysbeth and Grietgen, her children, poor people. Translated this could read John, son of Thomas; Elizabeth Rogers, widow of Thomas; and Elizabeth and Margaret, her children. At that period, the word orphan meant that either or both parents were dead." [Note: The proper translation of "Elsgen" is "Alice" - not "Elizabeth"].
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; ""The 1622 Leiden poll tax list revealed that when Thomas Rogers left for America, his wife Alice, two daus. Elizabeth and Margaret and son John remained in Leiden in the household of Anthony Clements, apparently one of the English Seperatists who did not emigrate to Plymouth.".
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William Rogers was born between 1538 and 1553 in Watford, Northamptonshire, England, Dates estimated from father's will, which states that he had seven children and names only his son, Edward. The bequests to the other children are to be given upon reaching their sixteenth birthday.1 He was the son of William Rogers and Joan (?).
William married Eleanor (?) between 1563 and 1575 in England (birth of son Thomas).1 He left a will dated 13 August 1585, registered at the Archdeaconry Court of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England, The following transcript of William's will was published by Clifford Stott:
William Rogers of Watford (1585)
"In Dei Nomine Amen the XIIIth day of August Anno dom 1585 I willm Rogers of Watford in the county of Northton husbandman sicke in body but of whole and pfecte memory do make and ordeyne this my last will and testament in maner and form following first I bequeathe my soule into the hands of Almighty god my maker and to Jesus Christ my redeemer and to the holy ghost my sanctyfyer and my body to be buryed in the churchyard of Watford aforesaid Item I give and bequeath unto Thomas Rogers my eldest sonne one messuage with a little peece of ground joining to the same on the backside commonly called the cote and one quarter of land being in the neyther end field of Watford with all the appurtenances there unto belonging to enter upon the same messuage and quarter of land with appurtenances at twenty one years of his age and not before in the meantime my wife to have the occupation of it Item I give unto the same Thomas Rogers one gray colte and my beest kine to chuse the same at holy roodes of day commonly called thenvention of the holly crosse* nex ensuing the date hereof Item I give and bequeath unto the same Elizabeth Rogers my daughter one cowe and one lambe to be delivered unto hir at thenvention of the holy crosse next come twelve moneth which shalbe in the yeare of our lord god 1587 Item I give and bequeath unto Willm Rogers my sonne ten pounds of lawful Englishe money to be payed unto him at eighteen years of his age Item Igive unto the foresaid Willm Rogers my sonne the lease of one messuage or tenement wheron I now dwell and one halfe yard land unto the same belonging with all those pastures medowes feeding commons with all the appurtenances unto the same belonging lying in th towne or of field or fields of Watford aforesaid to enter upon the foresaid messuage half yard land with the appurtenances etc after the decease of Ellenor Rogers my wife at the endy of hir naturrall lyfe in the meantime the foresaid Ellenor to have and enioy the messuage halfe yard land with the appurtenances in as ample and large maner as is before specyfyed Item I give unto the sayd Willm Rogers my sonne three hyves commonly called his owne Provided always that yf it happen any of my foresaid children to decease before terme or tyme specyfyed or abouve specyfyed for payment or delivery of all and every of the foresaid porsions or legacyes that then they survivors or longer liver or livers to have the legacyes of the deceased equally devided ajongest and yf it happen all save one to decease then he or she to have and enioy all the whole legacyes of the deceased And yf it happa my children aforeayd to decease before the termes aforesaid then the legacyes to remayne with myne executrix Item I give and bequeath to Elizabeth Cole my sister xii [1] and to either of hir children iiii [1] a peece Item I give unto Willm Garle the sonne of Alexander Garle iiii [1] All the rest of my goods chattels moveable and unmoveable (illegible) unbequeathed my debts discharged I give unto Ellinor Rogers my wfye who I make my whole and sole executrix to fulfill this my last will and testament And I desire Robt Butler and Edward Rogers my brother to my overseers made in the psence of Robt Butler Robt Maddocke of Watford with others (proved 9 May 1586) Inventory x1ij [li] xix[s] ij
* The invention of the Holy Cross, celebrated 3 May, commemorates Empress Helena's discovery of the True Cross in Palestine in 376 A.D.2
William Rogers died between 13 August 1585 and 9 May 1586 in Watford, Northampton, England,, (Based on date of will and date proven).2
William married Eleanor (?) between 1563 and 1575 in England (birth of son Thomas).1 He left a will dated 13 August 1585, registered at the Archdeaconry Court of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England, The following transcript of William's will was published by Clifford Stott:
William Rogers of Watford (1585)
"In Dei Nomine Amen the XIIIth day of August Anno dom 1585 I willm Rogers of Watford in the county of Northton husbandman sicke in body but of whole and pfecte memory do make and ordeyne this my last will and testament in maner and form following first I bequeathe my soule into the hands of Almighty god my maker and to Jesus Christ my redeemer and to the holy ghost my sanctyfyer and my body to be buryed in the churchyard of Watford aforesaid Item I give and bequeath unto Thomas Rogers my eldest sonne one messuage with a little peece of ground joining to the same on the backside commonly called the cote and one quarter of land being in the neyther end field of Watford with all the appurtenances there unto belonging to enter upon the same messuage and quarter of land with appurtenances at twenty one years of his age and not before in the meantime my wife to have the occupation of it Item I give unto the same Thomas Rogers one gray colte and my beest kine to chuse the same at holy roodes of day commonly called thenvention of the holly crosse* nex ensuing the date hereof Item I give and bequeath unto the same Elizabeth Rogers my daughter one cowe and one lambe to be delivered unto hir at thenvention of the holy crosse next come twelve moneth which shalbe in the yeare of our lord god 1587 Item I give and bequeath unto Willm Rogers my sonne ten pounds of lawful Englishe money to be payed unto him at eighteen years of his age Item Igive unto the foresaid Willm Rogers my sonne the lease of one messuage or tenement wheron I now dwell and one halfe yard land unto the same belonging with all those pastures medowes feeding commons with all the appurtenances unto the same belonging lying in th towne or of field or fields of Watford aforesaid to enter upon the foresaid messuage half yard land with the appurtenances etc after the decease of Ellenor Rogers my wife at the endy of hir naturrall lyfe in the meantime the foresaid Ellenor to have and enioy the messuage halfe yard land with the appurtenances in as ample and large maner as is before specyfyed Item I give unto the sayd Willm Rogers my sonne three hyves commonly called his owne Provided always that yf it happen any of my foresaid children to decease before terme or tyme specyfyed or abouve specyfyed for payment or delivery of all and every of the foresaid porsions or legacyes that then they survivors or longer liver or livers to have the legacyes of the deceased equally devided ajongest and yf it happen all save one to decease then he or she to have and enioy all the whole legacyes of the deceased And yf it happa my children aforeayd to decease before the termes aforesaid then the legacyes to remayne with myne executrix Item I give and bequeath to Elizabeth Cole my sister xii [1] and to either of hir children iiii [1] a peece Item I give unto Willm Garle the sonne of Alexander Garle iiii [1] All the rest of my goods chattels moveable and unmoveable (illegible) unbequeathed my debts discharged I give unto Ellinor Rogers my wfye who I make my whole and sole executrix to fulfill this my last will and testament And I desire Robt Butler and Edward Rogers my brother to my overseers made in the psence of Robt Butler Robt Maddocke of Watford with others (proved 9 May 1586) Inventory x1ij [li] xix[s] ij
* The invention of the Holy Cross, celebrated 3 May, commemorates Empress Helena's discovery of the True Cross in Palestine in 376 A.D.2
William Rogers died between 13 August 1585 and 9 May 1586 in Watford, Northampton, England,, (Based on date of will and date proven).2
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Children of William Rogers and Eleanor (?)- Thomas Rogers+ b. bt 1564 - 1585, d. 1620/211
Elizabeth Rogers b. 15 Jan 15751
William Rogers b. 15 Apr 15811
Citations
Eleanor (?)1 (F)
#3030
#3030
Appears on charts:- Pedigree for Ronald L. Lahti
Her married name was Eleanor Rogers.
Eleanor married William Rogers, son of William Rogers and Joan (?), between 1563 and 1575 in England (birth of son Thomas).2 She was named executrix and an heir in the will of William Rogers dated 13 August 1585 at the Archdeaconry Court of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England, M; The following transcript of William's will was published by Clifford Stott:
William Rogers of Watford (1585)
"In Dei Nomine Amen the XIIIth day of August Anno dom 1585 I willm Rogers of Watford in the county of Northton husbandman sicke in body but of whole and pfecte memory do make and ordeyne this my last will and testament in maner and form following first I bequeathe my soule into the hands of Almighty god my maker and to Jesus Christ my redeemer and to the holy ghost my sanctyfyer and my body to be buryed in the churchyard of Watford aforesaid Item I give and bequeath unto Thomas Rogers my eldest sonne one messuage with a little peece of ground joining to the same on the backside commonly called the cote and one quarter of land being in the neyther end field of Watford with all the appurtenances there unto belonging to enter upon the same messuage and quarter of land with appurtenances at twenty one years of his age and not before in the meantime my wife to have the occupation of it Item I give unto the same Thomas Rogers one gray colte and my beest kine to chuse the same at holy roodes of day commonly called thenvention of the holly crosse* nex ensuing the date hereof Item I give and bequeath unto the same Elizabeth Rogers my daughter one cowe and one lambe to be delivered unto hir at thenvention of the holy crosse next come twelve moneth which shalbe in the yeare of our lord god 1587 Item I give and bequeath unto Willm Rogers my sonne ten pounds of lawful Englishe money to be payed unto him at eighteen years of his age Item Igive unto the foresaid Willm Rogers my sonne the lease of one messuage or tenement wheron I now dwell and one halfe yard land unto the same belonging with all those pastures medowes feeding commons with all the appurtenances unto the same belonging lying in th towne or of field or fields of Watford aforesaid to enter upon the foresaid messuage half yard land with the appurtenances etc after the decease of Ellenor Rogers my wife at the endy of hir naturrall lyfe in the meantime the foresaid Ellenor to have and enioy the messuage halfe yard land with the appurtenances in as ample and large maner as is before specyfyed Item I give unto the sayd Willm Rogers my sonne three hyves commonly called his owne Provided always that yf it happen any of my foresaid children to decease before terme or tyme specyfyed or abouve specyfyed for payment or delivery of all and every of the foresaid porsions or legacyes that then they survivors or longer liver or livers to have the legacyes of the deceased equally devided ajongest and yf it happen all save one to decease then he or she to have and enioy all the whole legacyes of the deceased And yf it happa my children aforeayd to decease before the termes aforesaid then the legacyes to remayne with myne executrix Item I give and bequeath to Elizabeth Cole my sister xii [1] and to either of hir children iiii [1] a peece Item I give unto Willm Garle the sonne of Alexander Garle iiii [1] All the rest of my goods chattels moveable and unmoveable (illegible) unbequeathed my debts discharged I give unto Ellinor Rogers my wfye who I make my whole and sole executrix to fulfill this my last will and testament And I desire Robt Butler and Edward Rogers my brother to my overseers made in the psence of Robt Butler Robt Maddocke of Watford with others (proved 9 May 1586) Inventory x1ij [li] xix[s] ij
* The invention of the Holy Cross, celebrated 3 May, commemorates Empress Helena's discovery of the True Cross in Palestine in 376 A.D.3
Eleanor married William Rogers, son of William Rogers and Joan (?), between 1563 and 1575 in England (birth of son Thomas).2 She was named executrix and an heir in the will of William Rogers dated 13 August 1585 at the Archdeaconry Court of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England, M; The following transcript of William's will was published by Clifford Stott:
William Rogers of Watford (1585)
"In Dei Nomine Amen the XIIIth day of August Anno dom 1585 I willm Rogers of Watford in the county of Northton husbandman sicke in body but of whole and pfecte memory do make and ordeyne this my last will and testament in maner and form following first I bequeathe my soule into the hands of Almighty god my maker and to Jesus Christ my redeemer and to the holy ghost my sanctyfyer and my body to be buryed in the churchyard of Watford aforesaid Item I give and bequeath unto Thomas Rogers my eldest sonne one messuage with a little peece of ground joining to the same on the backside commonly called the cote and one quarter of land being in the neyther end field of Watford with all the appurtenances there unto belonging to enter upon the same messuage and quarter of land with appurtenances at twenty one years of his age and not before in the meantime my wife to have the occupation of it Item I give unto the same Thomas Rogers one gray colte and my beest kine to chuse the same at holy roodes of day commonly called thenvention of the holly crosse* nex ensuing the date hereof Item I give and bequeath unto the same Elizabeth Rogers my daughter one cowe and one lambe to be delivered unto hir at thenvention of the holy crosse next come twelve moneth which shalbe in the yeare of our lord god 1587 Item I give and bequeath unto Willm Rogers my sonne ten pounds of lawful Englishe money to be payed unto him at eighteen years of his age Item Igive unto the foresaid Willm Rogers my sonne the lease of one messuage or tenement wheron I now dwell and one halfe yard land unto the same belonging with all those pastures medowes feeding commons with all the appurtenances unto the same belonging lying in th towne or of field or fields of Watford aforesaid to enter upon the foresaid messuage half yard land with the appurtenances etc after the decease of Ellenor Rogers my wife at the endy of hir naturrall lyfe in the meantime the foresaid Ellenor to have and enioy the messuage halfe yard land with the appurtenances in as ample and large maner as is before specyfyed Item I give unto the sayd Willm Rogers my sonne three hyves commonly called his owne Provided always that yf it happen any of my foresaid children to decease before terme or tyme specyfyed or abouve specyfyed for payment or delivery of all and every of the foresaid porsions or legacyes that then they survivors or longer liver or livers to have the legacyes of the deceased equally devided ajongest and yf it happen all save one to decease then he or she to have and enioy all the whole legacyes of the deceased And yf it happa my children aforeayd to decease before the termes aforesaid then the legacyes to remayne with myne executrix Item I give and bequeath to Elizabeth Cole my sister xii [1] and to either of hir children iiii [1] a peece Item I give unto Willm Garle the sonne of Alexander Garle iiii [1] All the rest of my goods chattels moveable and unmoveable (illegible) unbequeathed my debts discharged I give unto Ellinor Rogers my wfye who I make my whole and sole executrix to fulfill this my last will and testament And I desire Robt Butler and Edward Rogers my brother to my overseers made in the psence of Robt Butler Robt Maddocke of Watford with others (proved 9 May 1586) Inventory x1ij [li] xix[s] ij
* The invention of the Holy Cross, celebrated 3 May, commemorates Empress Helena's discovery of the True Cross in Palestine in 376 A.D.3
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Children of Eleanor (?) and William Rogers- Thomas Rogers+ b. bt 1564 - 1585, d. 1620/214
Elizabeth Rogers b. 15 Jan 15752
William Rogers b. 15 Apr 15812
Citations
- Named in husband's will (see #3035 for transcription).
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers", 10: 138-149 (1989) [Citing Archdeaconry of Northampton, Registered Wills V:214. 22. R.L. Greenall, ed., Parish Register of Long Buckby (Leicester, 1971), pp. 18, 28.].
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "[Thomas Rogers] ...son of Willliam and Eleanor (---) Rogers".
Willliam Jepson , formerly of Worksop, Notts., England (M)
#3031
#3031
Willliam Jepson , formerly of Worksop, Notts., England witnessed the citizenship of Thomas Rogers on 25 June 1618 at Leidon, Holland.1,2
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Citations
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, :153; "Our earliest encounter with Pilgrim Thomas Rogers was on 25 June 1618 when he became a citizen of Leiden, Holland, vouched for by William Jepson, formerly of Worksop, Notts., and by Roger Wilson, formerly of Sandwich, Kent Co., England.".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html, "Thomas Rogers became a citizen of Leyden on 25 June 1618 with sponsors William Jepson and Roger Wilson, and is called a Camlet-merchant. And just two years later, on 1 April 1620, he sold his house in Leyden before coming to America on the Mayflower.".
Roger Wilson , formerly of Sandwich, Kent Co., England (M)
#3032
#3032
Roger Wilson , formerly of Sandwich, Kent Co., England witnessed the citizenship of Thomas Rogers on 25 June 1618 at Leidon, Holland.1,2
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Citations
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, :153; "Our earliest encounter with Pilgrim Thomas Rogers was on 25 June 1618 when he became a citizen of Leiden, Holland, vouched for by William Jepson, formerly of Worksop, Notts., and by Roger Wilson, formerly of Sandwich, Kent Co., England.".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html, "Thomas Rogers became a citizen of Leyden on 25 June 1618 with sponsors William Jepson and Roger Wilson, and is called a Camlet-merchant. And just two years later, on 1 April 1620, he sold his house in Leyden before coming to America on the Mayflower.".
Thomas Rogers was baptized on 24 March 1598/99 in Watford, Northampton, England.2,3 He was the son of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford.1
Thomas Rogers died circa 27 May 1599 in Watford, Northampton, England.3 He was buried on 27 May 1599 at Watford, Northampton, England.2,3
Thomas Rogers died circa 27 May 1599 in Watford, Northampton, England.3 He was buried on 27 May 1599 at Watford, Northampton, England.2,3
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Citations
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html.
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "Children (Rogers) baptized at Watford... Thomas2 bp. 24 March 1598/9; bur. 27 May 1599.".
Richard Rogers was baptized on 12 March 1599 in Watford, Northampton, England, This is a "possible" son.1,2 He was the son of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford.
Richard Rogers died circa 4 April 1600 in Watford, Northampton, England.2 He was buried on 4 April 1600 at Watford, Northampton, England.1,2
Research Note: It is not known for certain that this was a child of Thomas [Source: MF5G 19:1].
Richard Rogers died circa 4 April 1600 in Watford, Northampton, England.2 He was buried on 4 April 1600 at Watford, Northampton, England.1,2
Research Note: It is not known for certain that this was a child of Thomas [Source: MF5G 19:1].
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Citations
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html.
- [S112] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-19, :1; "Children (Rogers) baptized at Watford... poss. Richard bp. 12 March 1599; bur. 4 April 1600.".
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William Rogers was the son of (?) Rogers.
William married Joan (?). He left a will dated 20 April 1553 at Watford, Northamptonshire, England, William Rogers of Watford (1553)
"In the name of god Amen in the yeare of or lord god 1553 and in ye VIIth yeare of the Reyngne of oure sovergne lord Edward ye sixth… The XXth day of Aprill I Willm Rogs of Watford sycke in body and hole in mynde do maike this my last will and testament in manr and forme folowyng ffirst I bequeath my soule to almighty god and his blyssyd mother ye virgin Mary and to all ye heavenly company and my body to be buried in ye chyrche yard of Watford Item I bequethe the mother church of Peterborough ii [1] to ye poore mans boxe ii [1] Item I give to my chyldn that I have which are seven in number x1s apece and one to be Anothers hayer and thaye to resave (receive) theyre pts at ye age of xvi years Item I give Edward my sone a new brasse pott beside his part aforenamyd Item I maike Jone my fyffe my sole executrix to despose ye residue of my goods to gods pleasure… and I maike my brother Ryc (Richard) Nicholas Hawell and Thomas Sabyn and alijs.. (proved 19 May 1533).1
William married Joan (?). He left a will dated 20 April 1553 at Watford, Northamptonshire, England, William Rogers of Watford (1553)
"In the name of god Amen in the yeare of or lord god 1553 and in ye VIIth yeare of the Reyngne of oure sovergne lord Edward ye sixth… The XXth day of Aprill I Willm Rogs of Watford sycke in body and hole in mynde do maike this my last will and testament in manr and forme folowyng ffirst I bequeath my soule to almighty god and his blyssyd mother ye virgin Mary and to all ye heavenly company and my body to be buried in ye chyrche yard of Watford Item I bequethe the mother church of Peterborough ii [1] to ye poore mans boxe ii [1] Item I give to my chyldn that I have which are seven in number x1s apece and one to be Anothers hayer and thaye to resave (receive) theyre pts at ye age of xvi years Item I give Edward my sone a new brasse pott beside his part aforenamyd Item I maike Jone my fyffe my sole executrix to despose ye residue of my goods to gods pleasure… and I maike my brother Ryc (Richard) Nicholas Hawell and Thomas Sabyn and alijs.. (proved 19 May 1533).1
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Children of William Rogers and Joan (?)- Elizabeth Rogers 2
Edward Rogers 2
William Rogers+ b. bt 1538 - 1553, d. bt 13 Aug 1585 - 9 May 1586
Citations
Joan (?) (F)
#3036
#3036
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Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Children of Joan (?) and William Rogers- Elizabeth Rogers 1
Edward Rogers 1
William Rogers+ b. bt 1538 - 1553, d. bt 13 Aug 1585 - 9 May 1586
Citations
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
John Rogers was baptized on 6 April 1606 in Watford, Northampton, England.2 He was the son of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford.1
As of 1622, John was also known as Jan Thomasz, as taken from a Poll Tax list. Translated, this could read "John, son of Thomas" and he was further listed as "orphan from England without means."3
John, age 33, married Anna Churchman on 16 April 1639 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
John Rogers and Joseph Rogers received a Land Grant of 50 acres each, of upland on 6 April 1640 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
In 1644, John and Joseph Rogers were employed or working as a appointed to lay out roads at Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
John Rogers died between 26 August 1691 and 20 September 1692 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.2
As of 1622, John was also known as Jan Thomasz, as taken from a Poll Tax list. Translated, this could read "John, son of Thomas" and he was further listed as "orphan from England without means."3
John, age 33, married Anna Churchman on 16 April 1639 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
John Rogers and Joseph Rogers received a Land Grant of 50 acres each, of upland on 6 April 1640 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
In 1644, John and Joseph Rogers were employed or working as a appointed to lay out roads at Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
John Rogers died between 26 August 1691 and 20 September 1692 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.2
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Citations
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html.
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, : 153; "Recent discoveries [1978] show that Thomas had a family living in Leiden, Holland, when the 1622 Poll Tax was taken. In the Over 't Hoff Quarter, in a house with other Pilgrim families in St. Pter's Churchyard west-side, were Jan Thomasz, orphan from England without means; Elsgen Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers, an Englishwoman; and Lysbeth and Grietgen, her children, poor people. Translated this could read John, son of Thomas; Elizabeth Rogers, widow of Thomas; and Elizabeth and Margaret, her children. At that period, the word orphan meant that either or both parents were dead." [Note: The proper translation of "Elsgen" is "Alice" - not "Elizabeth"].
Anna Churchman (F)
b. before 16 April 1639, #3038
b. before 16 April 1639, #3038
Anna Churchman was born before 16 April 1639, her parentage is unknown at this time. As of 16 April 1639, her married name was Anna Rogers.
Anna married John Rogers, age 33, son of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford, on 16 April 1639 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Anna married John Rogers, age 33, son of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford, on 16 April 1639 at Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA, New England.
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Elizabeth Rogers was baptized on 26 December 1608 in Watford, Northampton, England.2 She was the daughter of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford.1
As of 1622, Elizabeth was also known as Lysbeth Rogiers as taken from a 1622 Leiden Poll Tax list.3 She died after 1622 , when she was last known to be living in Leiden, Holland.
As of 1622, Elizabeth was also known as Lysbeth Rogiers as taken from a 1622 Leiden Poll Tax list.3 She died after 1622 , when she was last known to be living in Leiden, Holland.
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Citations
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html.
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, : 153; "Recent discoveries [1978] show that Thomas had a family living in Leiden, Holland, when the 1622 Poll Tax was taken. In the Over 't Hoff Quarter, in a house with other Pilgrim families in St. Pter's Churchyard west-side, were Jan Thomasz, orphan from England without means; Elsgen Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers, an Englishwoman; and Lysbeth and Grietgen, her children, poor people. Translated this could read John, son of Thomas; Elizabeth Rogers, widow of Thomas; and Elizabeth and Margaret, her children. At that period, the word orphan meant that either or both parents were dead." [Note: The proper translation of "Elsgen" is "Alice" - not "Elizabeth"].
Margaret Rogers was baptized on 30 May 1613 in Watford, Northampton, England.2 She was the daughter of Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford.1
As of 1622, Margaret was also known as Grietgen Rogiers as taken from a 1622 Leiden Poll Tax list.3 She died after 1622 , when she was last known to be living in Leiden, Holland.2
As of 1622, Margaret was also known as Grietgen Rogiers as taken from a 1622 Leiden Poll Tax list.3 She died after 1622 , when she was last known to be living in Leiden, Holland.2
Last Edited=2 Dec 2003
Citations
- [S140] Clifford Stott, "Ancestry of Thomas Rogers".
- [S113] Caleb Johnson, online http://members.aol.com/calebj/rogers.html.
- [S114] Alice W. A. Westgate MF5G-2, : 153; "Recent discoveries [1978] show that Thomas had a family living in Leiden, Holland, when the 1622 Poll Tax was taken. In the Over 't Hoff Quarter, in a house with other Pilgrim families in St. Pter's Churchyard west-side, were Jan Thomasz, orphan from England without means; Elsgen Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers, an Englishwoman; and Lysbeth and Grietgen, her children, poor people. Translated this could read John, son of Thomas; Elizabeth Rogers, widow of Thomas; and Elizabeth and Margaret, her children. At that period, the word orphan meant that either or both parents were dead." [Note: The proper translation of "Elsgen" is "Alice" - not "Elizabeth"].
Compiler:
Dr. Ronald L. Lahti, M.A., D.A., P.A
South Easton, MA
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